It seems that some of the "hardcore" fans now finally have noticed that attitude, the silence and empty promises and are beginning to question it all.
Yeah, I noticed some well known XF apologist were starting to get a little vocal and pulling back on their participation over there.
The XF developer attitude and sheer arrogance towards their license holders was what finally got to me and got me so vocal about them. The XF of 2025 is NOT the XF of 2012 as far as developer attitude towards the folks that line their pockets was. They seem to think they are entitled to be worshipped after having a vocal few kiss their arse for so long.
All I'm hoping for is for a stable 2.4 with a quality editor to get out.
How many months are they behind on that now?
The pity is... XF had (and still has) great promise.... if the developers that are supposed to be guiding the path to excellence would pull their heads out. I guess they don't want to have to hear that
POP! sound when they do.
Of course, what do I know.. I'm just that radical anti-XF guy that likes burning 'em down all the time.
Never mind that I was a BIG supporter for over a decade nor that I also have had ZERO issues calling out other script developers with issues as I perceive as problematic. It just seems that a certain XF developer with the first initial Chris had issues with being called out. At least the Invision guys had the cajones to deal with it as adults and the Wotlab guys would discourse on their reasoning behind their decions other than "Because I'm <fill in the blank>" like Xenforo does. They also didn't go running to
Momma crying "Hey this guy said mean things about me so we gotta make him pay" like a child (hi certain XF developer that is mentioned in this post). That action itself told me all I needed to know about Xenforo with Chris at the helm. And that was to avoid them if looking to get into the paid script offerings.
Hell, it's bad enough that Discourse is getting to where it puts the Xenforo mighty it's mainly a forum (per the XF apologist) offering to shame, and you can get Discourse for free on self-hosted pursuits and for a base forum it is beyond what Xenforo offers in most every aspect.
Either they (in this case the XF developers specifically) are incompetent, liars (but that could fall into the incompetent arena), burnt out or they are struggling financially. In any of those cases, it's not a good sign. They really need to wake up and smell the roses. ALL forum format script offerings are suffering. And maybe... just maybe... their license holders actually know better than those
gods in the ivory tower do on what can bring users to the table.
The sad thing is, from my few interactions with Chris I had developed a level of respect for him... but power can corrupt.
There is an old saying...
Pride goeth before the fall. And some scripts (Xenforo specifically) are appearing to be looking at a mighty fall.
And again, I want to emphasize.. I love the XF script and its possibilities. What I hate is the attitude that XF has (d)evolved to over the last few years. Thanks Chris!
